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A car is usually essential in France
Once you have finally waded through all the paperwork, signed every sheet of the sale documents and initialled a thousand more pieces of legal paper, you can relax. You have bought your house in France, and you are ready to begin your new life as an ex-pat (Living in France). Before you relax completely, though, have you thought about a car and registering it? Almost everyone needs one these days, and as so many of us move to the French countryside, or at least to small market towns, a car really is as essential as a home. And registering it is must, although it must be said that if you are bringing your car from the UK to France, it is still possible to keep your UK licence and plates (see our article Car Insurance in France), for a short while at least.
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Registering a car in France involves getting a carte grise (grey card) and new French number plates
And just so you are clear from the outset, what you are trying to obtain by registering your car in France, is a carte grise with a new registration number for your car, which you can then use to go and buy some new French number plates.
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Registering a car in France will involve paper
Of course you knew that you would need a car and would need to go about registering it. It's just that it paled into insignificance alongside the massive undertaking of buying a house. Registering a car can't be as complicated as that, surely? Well, no it isn't... usually. What you have to remember, in anything you undertake from now on, is that this is France, and things are done differently here. For one thing, where one bit of paper would have sufficed in the UK, in France you will need a minimum of twenty. France is drowning in a sea of paper, and registering your car is another drop in that ocean. As long as you are prepared for this, and make the paper chase in good time, you will manage fine.
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Take your old car to France or buy a new car in France?
Perhaps the first decision that you need to make is whether to keep your UK car, or whether it makes more sense to trade it in and buy a car in France. To a certain extent, of course, this depends on how much available cash you have. If money is no object, then it is probably easier all round to sell your old car in the UK, move to France and buy a brand new car.
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Buying a new French car – registering is simple
If you buy a new French car in France, registering and indeed everything is simple. The dealer will do all the paperwork for you, and issue you with the carte grise or grey card, which is the equivalent of the log book and is the certificate you are given showing your car has been registered. The only point perhaps worth making here is that it is probably wise to do as the French do and to buy a car that is manufactured in France, by one of the main French car companies such Renault, Peugeot or Citroën.
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Most cars driven in France are manufactured in France
You will quickly notice that a massive percentage of cars on the roads of France are manufactured by these French firms, and it is not just as a result of French national loyalty (although this undoubtedly is a factor!). French cars are simply so much easier to find parts for if they go wrong, and so much easier to find experienced mechanics for too!
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Buying a second hand car in France
The biggest single thing that you need to be aware of here is that second hand cars are expensive in France. A quick glance at the petits annonces or small ads sections of local papers, or a look through a car sales magazine will show you instantly that the second hand market here is much more expensive than in England. It is also more expensive than that of Spain, so one possible solution for those who live in the south of the country is to purchase a car in Spain, and then import it into France. Of course, it then needs to be re-registered for France in the same way as a UK car. (Second hand cars in France, Second hand France.)
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Registering a second hand car in France
If you do buy a second hand car in France, there is a procedure that you will need to go through in order to register it. The vendor should give you all the existing paperwork, including the current carte grise, and a bill of sale. You then have around fifteen days to apply for a new carte grise, as this is not passed from owner to owner but is cancelled and replaced. The easiest way to deal with the paperwork involved here is to present yourself at your Mairie, where they will not only do all the paperwork for you but also tell you exactly what it will cost. Some Mairie staff will even post the application for you! In some cases, it may be necessary to have the car put through the Côntrole Technique (French MOT) again, although the vendor is supposed to do this as a routine part of the sale if the car is old enough to warrant it.
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Importing a car from the UK and registering it in France
If you decide that you want to bring your car with you to France, the situation becomes a little more complicated. It is currently possible, even if you are a French resident, to keep your UK driving licence and UK plates, for a short time at least, but you will have to change to French plates and a French licence eventually. Your UK driving licence is valid in France until it expires, while you are allowed to keep French plates for up to six months if you are a non-resident of France, and up to one month for French residents. The time allowed for French residents can be extended up to a maximum of three months should a vehicle need to be approved via the DRIRE. In the past these time limits have not seemed to have been strictly adhered to, but insurance laws are now tightening and this should no longer be the case. Should you be at all uncertain, I would suggest you take current local advice about registering a car, from your Mairie in the first instance, and then from the prefecture or capital town of your department.
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A personal experience
The time scale we were told when we first came to France of one year is quite different from what we are now being told, although there are still many different reponses given from agents asked to insure British vehicles, even now. And in practice, we have had a UK registered van insured here for six years, having had no problems with insurance cover or when checked by gendarmes etc.
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How to re-register a car in France with French plates
Doing anything in France is an exercise in paperwork, so the first thing you need to know is exactly what paperwork you have to assemble with regard to registering a car. You can obtain a list from the local offices of DRIRE (Direction Régionale de l'Industrie, de la Recherche et de l'Environnement), or perhaps as we did, from our insurers. Others have once more found the Mairie to be extremely helpful as regards this too, but it is of course, dependant on the individuals concerned. The steps described below are subject to regional and temporal differences, but provide a description of a likely sequence of events in the registering of a car in France! (See also point 4 in our "Your Comments" section below.)
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1. Registering a car in France - the English bit!
This is the easy bit, as you can do this in English. We were told to notify the DVLA that we were permanently exporting our vehicle to France, and obtained from them a certificate of export, or V561. However, it seems that now all you need do is, before handing over the V5C at the Prefecture, tear off the export section from the V5C and send it off to DVLA. Even this is not strictly necessary though as the French authorities are legally obliged to inform DVLA that a vehicle has been registered in their territory within two months of the event which will prompt DVLA to officially record the vehicle as exported. Note that this is the only notification which will, as neither an export certificate nor the tear off from the V5C are proof of anything.
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2. Registering a car in France - Certificate of Conformity
This is a vital part of registering your car in France, and it is the one that seems to give the most problems. Difficulties can arise with unusual vehicles, or cars which had been imported to Britain originally. The Certificate of Conformity is the manufacturers' assurance that the vehicle copies with current relevant legislation. It used to be the case that a manufacturer would supply this without a fee and without a fuss, as long as the car was a recognised model, and had a counterpart in France. Now there is usually a charge of €131 in France. This certificate must be an original document, not a photocopy. If you can, contact the car manufacturer and ask them to send you a Certificate of Conformity while you are still in the UK, as this may then not cost anything, though it does depend on the manufacturer. You may also be able to get it in French. You will need to provide a copy of your car registration document (V5C form) and in some cases a cheque.
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Difficulties to be expected in registering older or unsual cars in France
Difficulties are likely to arise with older or unusual cars, or ones that do not have an equivalent in France. Older cars may be issued with a Type Approval Certificate, and your dealer should be able to advise on this. Owners of "vehicules
de collection" must obtain a certificate of attestation that the vehicle is technically compliant from the FFVE (Fédération française des véhicules d'epoch). And if your car is an import to Britain, and there is no equivalent model in France, you could have your work cut out. I am sure that there is a way to do it, but I would not advise attempting it unless you have bags of time, endless patience, a relentlessly optimistic disposition and are in no hurry at all.
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3. Registering a car in France - change the headlights
Change the headlights to right hand driving position. This is not cheap, and the temporary stickers that you use when on holiday just will not do. You need to fit blocs optiques, though check your car manual to see if you have switchable lights first. (The lights need to dip in the right direction.) Most good garages will be able to do this for between 400-700 Euros, but make an appointment in advance. They may also be able to find secondhand lights for you if asked.
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4. Registering a car in France - the Côntrole Technique
Now you have the headlights, you can get the Côntrole Technique, which is the French version of the MOT. These are performed at literally hundreds of garages around the towns and villages. If your French is good (Learning French) it doesn't matter which you choose to use, but otherwise, if you know people locally then word of mouth is a good guide as to which garage is likely to be helpful to you as a non French speaking Brit! If your car needs further work you will be given a time limit (it was two weeks when I last had mine done) to correct any problems and re-test. The Côntrole Technique costs aproximately 65 Euros and you will need to take with you to the garage your Certificate of Conformity, proof of address (eg: a utility bill), proof of identity (eg: passport, you may not need it, but it's helpful to take it just in case) and your blue V5C.
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5. Registering a car in France - tax certificate
Now take all the paperwork you have amassed so far and attend your local Centre des Impots, explaining that you want to import your car. If the car is older than six months and has done more than 3,500 kilometres then you will not need to pay any tax. You will be asked for your current mileage.
The purpose of going to the Centre des Impots with all of this is to obtain a certificate, the Quitas Fiscal, that will show that there is no duty payable on the vehicle. In our case the paperwork required to effect this included the UK Log Book, V561 certificate of export, proof of residence in France (utilities bill etc.), original invoice from the purchase of the vehicle showing the name of the previous owner and the price paid, Côntrole Technique Certificate, and the Certificate of Conformity. We also needed proof of our identity, so we took our passports too. It is also a good idea, as with any bureaucratic exercise in France, to take along around five photocopies of everything, just in case.
Please note though that although this was the situation in our case, I understand that now the only documents you actually need for the Quitus are, V5C, a purchase invoice (not really required if V5C is in your name), proof of identity (passport), Certificate of Conformity and proof of address. Some would also say that when dealing with French bureaucrats it may be best to work on a minimalist basis by initially offering only what documents you know or believe to be necessary and only providing others on specific request. The thinking behind this being the less you give them the less there is for them to argue over!
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6. Registering a car in France - the carte grise at last!
Finally, weighed down by all your bits of paper, you are now ready to attend the préfecture to make the registration and receive your carte grise. You will need to complete a Demande de Certificat d'Immatriculation (a downloadable form is available at http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/R13567.xhtml), pay your fee and then the fun begins. (Regarding the fee, bear in mind that since 2008 there is a tax payable here on first registration of any car with a high CO2 emission, varying from 200 Euros to about 3000 Euros, depending on the emission of the car and the department it is registered in.) You may be lucky, and receive your new registration immediately or at least a provisional registration certificate... (really, there are reports of this occurring - see point 4 in our "Your Comments" section below!) in which case off you go to buy your new plates and consider yourself French! Sadly, however, this can all take a little longer. There are also reports of cases where people have had to return home, carte griseless, and wait with baited breath for some seeks for La Poste to turn up with the much needed and hard won documents.
What you must be prepared to have with you to make this easy on yourself is your Certificate of Conformity, Quitus Fiscal, Contrôle Technique Certificate, proof of identity (eg: passport), proof of address (eg: utility bill or your house purchase Attestation), V5C and finally the Demande de Certificat d'Immatriculation form completed.
Please note that they will keep your V5 together with the Quitus Fiscale and the Certificate of Conformity but will hand you back the exportation slip (section 11) which you must send to the DVLA straight away. (See http://www.carte-grise.org/importation_vehicule_angleterre.htm.)
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7. Registering a car in France - change your plates
Now you must change your plates. Garages will be able to do this for you for a small fee, as long as you have with you your carte grise.
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8. Registering a car in France - change the Côntrole Technique information
All you will need is here is your carte grise (or the provisional form if you haven't yet got your carte grise), Contrôle Technique Certificate and some form of ID (eg: passport). You will need to take these to the garage where you had your Contrôle Technique done and they will alter the registration plate information on your certificate, usually for no fee.
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9. Registering a car in France - changing your insurance certificate
If you have French car insurance you will need to have the number on your insurance certificate changed.
Additional articles which may be of interest:
Second hand cars in France (another first-hand account of trying to register a second hand car)
Car Insurance in France
House Insurance in France
Travelling to France with Pets
French Connections
** Please note that the above article was updated in October and December 2010 **
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About the author
Joanna Simm moved to the Languedoc area of south-west France in October 2004 having found her property through French Property Links.
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your questions...
1. A visitor to the site asks about Controle Techniques and MOTs (added 8/4/08)...
Hello - we have lived in the Creuse for the past two years and we brought our Ford Transit Van and our Escort 1.8 from England with us. Our French household insurance company insured our Transit and issued us with a French window sticker and told us we had three months or twelve months grace to get it changed to French registration. Your webpage on this subject says that, Step 3, was to get a Controle Technique (French MOT). When we took our vehicle to the local Controle Technique Station they told us we could not have a Controle Technique carried out until we had Step 6, the carte grise! We then drove to Gueret to sort out the carte grise and were given a load of papers in French and told that we would need a Controle Technique to be able to get the carte grise. Next week we will phone the Ford dealer in Gueret to see if they will supply us with a Certificate of Conformity.
In another paragraph headed "Time within which you must register cars in France varies", you mention that after three years you still had a UK registered van, still insured with the same agency which is exactly the situation we have. My question on this issue is, do you have a French Controle Technique to replace the UK MOT certificate? Because our UK MOT has expired which is why we took our Transit Van to have the Controle Technique carried out! Any advice you have to offer would be most appreciated on this subject.
And here is a bit more info for you. We drove to Limoges yesterday (in our Ford Escort hatchback which is still on UK tax, insurance and MOT, not our Transit Van), to the main Ford dealer for our area after speaking to them by phone. They looked at our car and for a Certificate of Conformity from them via Ford, Paris, France they want €131.00 but they say we have to first have new European headlights fitted, their price about €450.00 and they say, they can then send the forms they are filling out for the car to Ford Paris to get a Certificate of Conformity for us which they will give to us when we pay them €131.00. In other words the Certificate of Conformity from the Ford agent is not free of charge any more. They tell us that once we have paid and received the Certificate of Conformity they can then carry out a Controle Technique which is €89.00, and that we can then take these and all of our other documents to Gueret, Prefecture to get a carte grise which they think will be about €130.00 or so. We hope we can then get a new French registration number - which we hope simply means buying a set of French number plates! The Ford dealer says the Certificate of Conformity could take anything up to four weeks but of course we don't know the timing on the remainder of the process.
When we got back to Bourganeuf we went to our French household insurance agent (with whom we took out French insurance for the Transit van two years ago), and took out French insurance cover for the Escort. They supplied us with the Certificate d' Assurance to stick on the windscreen, so now there is another UK registered car in France with UK number plates and French windowsticker, with a soon to expire MOT.
So, you can certainly see that there are varying opinions on how to go about it all!
Jo Rhodes, editor of French Property Links replies:
I have now heard back from my colleague about these confusing issues, after she has discussed this with her husband, who is the one who mainly deals with such things! She says:
"I think this is going to be one of those things where everyone you meet has a different story... there are so many things like that in France!!! We have been variously told that:
a) You cannot get insurance at all for a UK plated vehicle.
b) You can insure it for a year and no more (then we continued to insure ours for three years).
c) You can insure it for as long as you want with UK plates, no problem (we are currently doing so).
d) It is no longer necessary to change the plates as it is an EU country.
Where is the truth? The article was written with information I was given at the time, personal experiences only prove how very differently things can turn out. I learn as I live... this is life here! So these are our experiences, right or wrong:
a) It is a fact that you need the Controle Technique BEFORE the carte grise... to say otherwise is wrong.
b) We do have a French Controle Technique to replace the UK MOT.
c) Our insurers have now insisted we French plate (after, perhaps, the accident my husband recently claimed for!!)... but still three and a half years on.
d) The headlights... outrageously expensive says my husband. Try to buy them in the UK or try Ebay. We have bought car parts from there before... prices much lower... we paid GBP 40.00 each for Transit ones ...NEW! Or try a scrap yard in France.
e) The 131 Euro charge for a Certificate of Conformity is apparently now a normal price, depending on various circumstances and if they like the look of you or not sort of criteria... as ever in rural France! Sorry if the article was incorrect initially, but it was the information I was given at the time. I still think there are some cases where you can get one free.
f) The carte grise price depends on value and age of car and also CO2 levels and power.
So this is the best of my knowledge at this time. BON CHANCE!"
2. A visitor asks about the Certificate of Conformity (added 8/4/08)...
I wonder if you can help me at all. I have read your very informative article and am now dreading the procedure. However, we have heard (probably Chinese whispers!) that you no longer need a Certificate of Conformity for your car?? Also, that you can keep your UK plate, just having the spacing altered and an "F" on the plate instead of "GB". This would be a lot of help to us, as we have personal plates which we would like to keep.
According to French News (Nov. 07) you are able to keep your own number, but they then weren't sure in March 08!!
Thank you very much in advance for any help you are able to give.
Jo Rhodes, editor of French Property Links, replies...
Thanks for contacting us. I have been in contact with my colleague, Joanna, in France who is not aware of these changes, but is looking into things to see if she can find anything out.
In the meantime, what I understand is that the French system of number plates will be changing from 2009, for French plates, but I am not sure how this will affect personal/private UK number plates, or even if you will be able to keep them, once you have registered your car in France. And as far as I'm aware, the Certificate of Conformity still exists.
The best thing to do at this stage is to probably contact your local DRIRE (Direction Régionale de l'Industrie, de la Recherche et de l'Environnement) office, or indeed your Mairie who might be able to confirm things. Failing that the DVLA in the UK might be able to point you in the right direction (http://www.dvla.gov.uk/).
A comment from a more recent visitor to the site (added 11/10/10)...
If you have a UK personal plate then if you do not put it on retention whilst the vehicle's Tax and MOT are still current, or SORN the vehicle immediately on Tax expiry, you will lose it. SORN of course is not an option for an exported vehicle.
3. A visitor to the site is looking for a car to buy in south-west France (added 12/2/09)
Hello - our daughter is now working and living in south-west France. After her green card ran out on the UK car (which has now been officially scrapped in France ) she finally found and bought an expensive second-hand Clio which was going great until an accident caused by a third party wrote it off. Now we need to find her a suitable car again with a smaller than hoped insurance settlement on the Clio. Can anyone help direct us to a decent left-hand registered car in this area around 2002-2009 plate - something like a Renault? Many thanks.
4. A question about importing a new car to France (added 12/3/09)...
There is plenty of advice re: importing used cars into France but what is the process if the car is under 6 months old and less than 6000 km. Assume full TVA at 20% on purchase price, plus green tax on co2 emmissions, EU COC etc but are there any other charges like an equalisation tax between French prices and prices in the country of purchase.
Our reply...
Thanks for contacting us. My colleague in France offers the following information:
"Assuming the TVA or VAT has been paid in England and you have a certificate to show that, there can be no more TVA payable... the tax treaty sorts that out.
There is no specific green tax, though when you register a car (new or second hand) in France, as a change of ownership you have to buy a new carte grise. You get the papers from the Mairie for this and you pay according to the age of the car and its CO2 emissions. You have to do this anyway, whether or not it is an import or French.
And there can be no levelling up of prices, the price of the car is what you pay when you buy it no matter where it is... it is just the cost of the carte grise that varies.
5. A question about taking a car to France from Portugal (added 12/3/09)...
Hi, after reading the laws and rules on driving a non-French registered car in France, where do we stand regarding our car please? We live in Portugal and have re-registered and paid importation taxes on a r/h drive Ford, so now have Portuguese plates. We are hoping to move to France in the next year and would like to bring our car with us. The MOT is called ITV here and we' d like to know the legalities of whether it is necessary to re-register yet again in France?? The car conforms to continental standards re, lights ect. It was a very costly business having to import the car as we couldn't prove we had had it in Portugal less than six months. It cost over 8,500 Euros in total and if we had to do that all over again it hardly warrants re-registering again in France! Mind you, Portugal is one of the most expensive places to have a car anyway!!!! Can you enlighten us as to whether the above would apply please? We are finding your site very interesting reading, thankyou!
Our reply...
Thanks for contacting us. I'm afraid though, I have no knowledge of taking a car from Portugal to France, though don't see why it wouldn't be the same as bringing one from the UK. I would suggest, as in our article, that the best thing to do is probably to take current local advice from your Mairie in the first instance, and then from the prefecture or capital town of your department. (Of course this assumes you know where you are moving to.) Or you could try your local DRIRE (Direction Régionale de l'Industrie, de la Recherche et de l'Environnement) office, failing that the DVLA in the UK might be able to point you in the right direction (http://www.dvla.gov.uk/). And even the French embassy in Portugal or British Embassy in France.
I'm sorry I cannot be of more help.
6. A question about keeping a car in France for holidays only (added 13/8/09)...
I read your article about importing a car to France, but cannot find the answer to my situation anywhere. I am wondering what one has to do if you want to have an imported (non-French) used car parked at your vacation home in France for use while there (maybe 3 months of the year), but you are not a French resident. I am American and Dutch (dual citizenship), living in the U.S. My mother is Dutch and also a resident of the USA, and I would like to buy a used car in Holland, drive it to her house in France (where I will be staying for 2 months), and leave it there for all of us to use whenever we are vacationing there in the future. What would we need to do to do this? Do I need to register this car in France if it will be parked there, but only used by non-residents a few months of the year? Can I insure the Dutch car with a Dutch insurer? Can I insure the Dutch car with a French insurer? Can I insure the Dutch car parked in France with an American insurer? You can see my confusion... any advice for this situation would be much appreciated.
Jo Rhodes, editor of French Property Links replies...
Thanks for contacting us. In reading your queries, I would say your easiest option would be to look into the TT scheme we mention in our article on car insurance in France (http://www.frenchpropertylinks.com/essential/car-insurance-france.html). This may make things alot easier.
However, if you still want to do as you say, I'm afraid that as we are a UK-based site, I am unsure of the exact procedures that would be involved in your case.
I would guess that as with a UK car, you could leave it with Dutch plates and not register it in France, but you would need insurance for the whole time the car is in France - at least third party. I would think there may well be some Dutch, French and US insurance companies which would insure the car in France, as there are UK companies which do this with UK cars, but I am not familiar with them.
For expert advice, it may be a good idea to take current local advice from the Mairie in the first instance, and then from the prefecture or capital town of the department your mother has a house in. Or you could try her local DRIRE (Direction Régionale de l'Industrie, de la Recherche et de l'Environnement) office, failing that maybe the French Embassy in Holland or Dutch or US Embassy in France.
I'm sorry I cannot be of more help.
7. Another question about the Certificate of Conformity (added 15/10/09)...
Hello - would you have any more information on this subject? I work for a relocation company in Switzerland and we have several clients settling in nearby France - and we are trying to understand how to advise them about importing cars from the UK. I thought that they MUST have this certificate. On the blog I noticed a comment update added 3/08/09 and wondered if you have any more info on this. Thanks.
Jo Rhodes, editor of French Property Links replies...
Thanks for contacting us. I'm afraid I have no further information about the Certificate de Conformité, other that what we have posted on the site. Indeed, other than this visitor's comments, we are also under the impression that you do need one, but they have found this not to be the case. I think in France, as with many things, it does depend on who you speak to or who you apply to (as the visitor mentions)!
I can only advise that the best thing for people to do is to probably contact their local DRIRE (Direction Régionale de l'Industrie, de la Recherche et de l'Environnement) office, or indeed their Mairie who might be able to confirm things. Failing that the DVLA in the UK might be able to point them in the right direction (http://www.dvla.gov.uk/).
Further update...
Thanks for answering! I thought I would let you know what I learned from calling our DRIRE in Rhone Alpes... which has actually merged with something and is DREAL now. Anyway, I posed this question based on that comment and he told me that it is not true: you do need this certificate. The information which is sometimes on Titles gives only half the story. There is still another piece of information which this certificate gives and the car registration documents never include. Of course, that is just one agency and one person... as you know, one never knows in France! Thanks again.
8. Another question about the Certificate of Conformity (added 29/1/10)...
Hello, I need to obtain a Certificate of Conformity for my mgf 2001 model which I can get from MGRCC Service in England (they hold all the records of The Rover MG group after the collapse of the Company). However, can you advise if the C of C would be acceptable in English?? Or does it have to be in French?
Jo Rhodes, editor of French Property Links replies...
Thanks for contacting us. Personally I don't think that there is any problem with an EU Certificate of Conformity being written in English instead of French, as it is coming from a UK manufacturer or company. (I understand this document will mainly be full of technical details anyway, rather than words, which should show that your car complies with European Standards.)
Though as I mention above, as I am not an expert in these matters, it may be worth contacting your local DRIRE (Direction Régionale de l'Industrie, de la Recherche et de l'Environnement) office, or indeed your Mairie who might be able to confirm this. Failing that the DVLA in the UK might also be able to help (http://www.dvla.gov.uk/).
9. A question about registering a kit car (added 17/08/10)...
I have a 1966 MGB kit car made in the UK then imported into Gibraltar. Now I need to put it
on French plates. My insurance company Mutuelle Poitiers cannot find the make/type in their
computer so are unable to do anything for me. Any ideas, please? (Car in on Gib plates.)
Jo Rhodes, editor of French Property Links replies...
Thanks for contacting us. I wonder if you've tried MGR C&C Services in the UK (who hold records of the Rover/MG group after the collapse of the company), although I am not sure how it works with kit cars. Their website is:
http://www.mgrccservices.com/
and if they cannot help, they may be able to point you in the right direction.
10. A question about a free Certificate of Conformity (added 19/4/11)...
Can anybody help me with trying to find a free Certificate of Conformity as I am rather unlucky as the type approval number does not appear on my UK Reg Certificate V5. My car is French after all and is a Peugeot 1998 first registered, 5-door Hatchback. Model Type 306 LX DT. Thank you an impoverished priest/pensioner!
Our reply...
Thanks for contacting us. My colleage Joanna in France says:
"Probably best to go to see a local Peugot dealer, but not sure if anything is free in France! They love their bits of paper, and usually charge for them."
I am sorry not to be of more help, though should anyone else get in touch with further ideas, I will let you know. You could I suppose also try Peugeot UK?
11. A question about shipping a car from USA to France (added 8/9/11)...
Hi, I want to send a car to my brother from USA to France. I need to know about duty and paper work and duty cost, car price is $75000.00. Thanks for helping.
Our reply...
Thanks for contacing us. However, I'm afraid that as we are a UK-based site, I am unsure of the exact procedures that would be involved in your case.
I would suggest you contact the French Embassy in the USA or the US Embassy in France for the rules, regulations and costs involved. It may also be a good idea to take current local advice from the Mairie where your brother lives or you could try his local DRIRE (Direction Régionale de l'Industrie, de la Recherche et de l'Environnement) office.
12. A question about any possible temporary registration (added 8/12/11)...
Hi - I read your forum on registering a UK vehicle here in France, and I wonder if anyone can shed light on this following dilemma? I have a UK van which I recently bought (in the UK). I have it insured here and there is UK tax but no MOT now as it's just run out. I'm needing to go back to the UK soon as I'm a Man and Van service (registered here in France), but obviously have no MOT, and the tax will also run out at the end of October. The complex registering process here will take some weeks, so what can I do, bearing in mind I have to make a living? Is there any temporary paper that I can obtain so that at least I can drive without fear of getting pulled and fined etc?
Our reply...
Thanks for contacting us. I see your dilemma and suggest you contact the agents we mention in our article on car insurance, who may be able to help or at maybe point you in the right direction:
Claire Martinet or Frank Haloche
Agent General
37 Rue Amiral Courbet
53500 ERNEE
Tel: 02 43 05 21 82
Email: 4005417@agents.allianz.fr
They speak excellent English and explain things clearly at all times and are very helpful. They are happy to operate at a distance, so it doesn't matter whereabouts in France you are based, everything can be done through email, telephone and post.
Alternatively you could try the DVLA for advice.
13. A question about costs of getting a carte grise (added 8/12/11)...
My wife and I have just registered our UK Land Rover Freelander 2 in France. We have owned our car from new. It is approaching three years old and we had the original receipt showing the amount of VAT paid. The information on your website was very helpful and we went through the procedure without any problem, until we had to pay for the carte grise. We were then told that the fee was 1550 Euros, and this was a huge shock. We paid and queried it later and were told that since 2008 all "first issue carte grise" attract this tax. Nothing I have seen on the internet suggests this is the case, but the lady at the Prefecture was adamant that this is the case and that the stuff we had read was out of date. I'm currently very confused.
Our reply...
Thanks for contacting us. I was not aware of specific costs of obtaining a carte grise, as this does vary according to the age of the car, its power and its CO2 emissions, and quite often which department of France you are in. I don't believe we mention the cost on our site. But I understand that since January 2008 there has been a tax imposed on first registration of high emission vehicles, varying from 200 Euros to 2,600 Euros, so I would think this is what you have been charged.
I have now included a specific mention of this in our article.
An update...
I just thought I'd follow up my email of yesterday about our experience of obtaining a carte grise for our Land Rover. We eventually discovered that all the Departments are free to set their own price for the first registration of a vehicle, which is now based on CO2 emissions. They can revue this price annually and it varies a little from department to department. Small low polluters would only be a few hundred Euros, our Freelander 2 comes in at about 1550 Euros and a Range Rover about 3000 and so on. No one we have spoken to has heard of this so its worth people knowing before they find out like we did at the point of payment.
14. A question about a non-resident registering a car (added 31/1/12)...
I may want to import a used car from the USA to replace the French car I have now. I?m a non-resident who owns a vacation home and thus would keep the car in my garage. I only spend three months a year in France and the rest of the year in the USA. One website says you don?t need to register the car if you are a non-resident. Thus, what, if anything am I exempted from that a foreign resident wouldn?t be?
Jo Rhodes, editor of French Property Links replies...
Thanks for contacting us. I understand you may be ok not registering the car in France for up to six months being a non-resident of France, but I am pretty sure you will then have to go about registering it. Certainly you will have to keep it insured, if only with third-party insurance.
However, I would suggest you contact the following agents who are mentioned many times in our articles on car insurance and registering cars in France, who should be able to give you expert advice:
Claire Martinet or Frank Haloche
Agent General
37 Rue Amiral Courbet
53500 ERNEE
Tel: 02 43 05 21 82
Email: 4005417@agents.allianz.fr
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your comments...
1. Experience with registering a kit car (added 24/12/08)...
Alan Garratt would like to share his experience of trying to register his kit car:
I have tried to register a kit car (Quantum 2+2 sports car) in France having used it legally for several years on the UK roads... it is absolutely
impossible! I sent off - eventually - all eleven documents requested, including a Ministers Approval Certificate - necessary to register in
England. The French authorities insist absolutely on a Certificate de Conformite which does not exist for a kit car. Without this certificate, which does not exist, they will not entertain the idea of registering in France... I spent nearly two years, made several trips to the Prefecture, and two visits to DRIRE ( (Direction Régionale de l'Industrie, de la Recherche et de l'Environnement), contacted an internet site for a Govt. Dept in England that reconciles
differences in E U Regulations - and have got nowhere!
If it can be done, please let me know. I have come to the conclusion that
it is impossible.
2. Importing a Spartan into France (added 12/3/09)...
I am the events coordinator for The Spartan Owners Club and I have a Frenchman who wants to import a Spartan into France. He is finding it impossible at the moment and I wondered if Alan had had any success I could pass onto him? Although if a Frenchman is struggling.............!!
3. Certificate of Conformity update (added 3/8/09)...
I've just re-registered my UK Peugeot 306 here in France. Beforehand, I'd read that the reason the Certificate of Conformity was required was to show the Type Approval Number ("numéro de reception" in French). I noticed that this number was already on the UK registration document so when they asked me whether I had the Certificate of Conformity at the sous-préfecture, I asked if it was to get the numéro de reception. She replied yes so I pointed at the Type Approval Number on the registration document. She consulted her boss and it was fine.
So if you've got the Type Approval Number on the registration document, which I believe is the case for all cars since 1998, you shouldn't need the Certificate of Conformity. Obviously, I don't know
whether I was lucky on the day as to who I was dealing with, but I did notice on the application form for the immatriculation that a Certificate of Conformity is only listed as a requirement for new cars and not second-hand, so if you can provide the numéro de reception via the UK registration document then I don't think there's a problem and
you get to keep your €113 that you'd otherwise have to spend on the certicate.
4. Experience of registering a UK car in France (added 9/2/10)...
A visitor to the site offers some welcome news and some helpful tips:
Bringing a UK car to France is so easy and paperwork is minimal. If the car is registered in your name on UK V5 then no importation is required. Yes a headlight change is required, so shop around, buy them via websites and if you cannot do it, either find someone local to fit them or negotiate a price with a garage. Do not use a main dealer.
To get your carte grise you will need: proof of residency (current electricity/telephone bill); Controle Technique (French MOT), UK V5 (logbook); proof of identity (passport) and you will need to fill a form out and then hand all this in to the prefecture's office, who will ask you for some money and give you a carte grise with your French immatriculation number.
Read your UK driving licence and V5 conditions. Both have to show your CURRENT ADDRESS or are invalid. After allowing time for change, usually one month max, now try changing either addresses to your French address. DVLA will not issue these documents to any address outside the UNITED KINGDOM. Therefore, theoretically, if you have lived in France for three months plus, and this is your permanent residence and you do not still have a residence in the UK, which is the address shown on your current driving licence, then you no longer have a valid licence to drive a vehicle, therefore you have no insurance either and you are committing an imprisonable offence. One telephone call to the DVLA will confirm this.
A more recent visitor to the site has the following to say (added 11/10/10)...
Regarding the last paragraph, I quote below an official written DVLA reply received in response to this very issue:
"Drivers who take up residence in another EC/EEA country no longer have to exchange their driving licence, but may continue to drive using their own national licence for as long as it remains valid. It is accepted that drivers who move to another part of the EC/EEA could be holding licences showing an incorrect address. You can complete the back of your licence with your current address. This is permissible under the terms of the EC Directive on Driving Licences."
5. Certificate of Conformity for a BMW (added 9/3/10)...
Reading your piece about registering UK cars in France, it might be of interest to know that two months ago I requested, and received, a Certificate of Conformity for my BMW 320i. There was no charge and it was in French.
Contact :
BMW Homologation Department
BMW (UK) Limited
Ellesfield Avenue
Bracknell
Berkshire
RG12 8TA
We haven't yet made the final move to France but have found your site very useful and very informative, if daunting !
6. Further information on registration and driving licences in France (added 14/4/10)...
A visitor to the site offers the following information:
It was explained to me that when you become a permanent resident in France, you have twelve months in which to re-register your vehicle. This is so that when you commit a traffic offence you can be traced - and fined.
In this event you will also be required to exchange your UK driving licence for a French one so that points can be deducted. If you do not commit a traffic offence you do not have to exchange your UK driving licence for a French one. However, when you get to 70 and your UK licence expires, you cannot be issued with a new UK one because you do not have a UK address. What’s more, once your UK licence has expired you may have to take a driving test to get a French one.
I have also read from the EU website that for permanent stays in an EU country, if you are moving with your car, you will need to register your car and pay any relevant taxes on it there. For temporary stays, if you are staying for less than six months, you do not have to register your car or pay any taxes in that country - it will remain registered in your previous country of residence. If your stay in another EU country is for less than six months, you cannot lend or rent your car to a resident of that country. The car can only be driven by another resident of that country if you are on board. You can, however, lend your car to visiting friends or family.
7. A problem with returning to the UK with a French registered car (added 17/6/10)...
Having read through your very informative posts and replies, may I add another complication to the already hopelessly jumbled EU driving/registration discussion? We are resident in UK, although the EU Signpost Service has tried to suggest otherwise, since we spend around five months in France most years, and, depending on whether we holiday outside UK for any considerable period, this may be longer than we spend in UK. Our principal residence, family, business (although we’re now retired), income and investments are in UK.
Like many French second home owners we have a French registered car. We imported to France a UK car we already owned, and found the re-registration procedure relatively painless, as some of your other posts suggest.
What I am currently arguing with DVLA about, however is whether we can return to UK in that French registered car for short, temporary and occasional visits. This situation is only likely to occur in the event of family or other emergencies, when even flying back is either too slow, due to schedules, or expensive, and an immediate return is required. I have much correspondence with DVLA, some of it contradictory, but the most recent stating that a UK resident may not drive a foreign EU registered car in UK under any circumstances.
I have asked the Police what law such action would break and they have written to say they are unaware of one. Provided the car is correctly insured and controle techniqued, this appears to me to discriminate against the UK citizen, when a non UK resident is allowed to drive his car in UK on foreign plates. Council Directive 83/182/EEC of 28 March 1983 touches on the matter, if you can restrain the excitement of reading long enough to pick out the relevant bits, but goes on to say that a EU citizen should register his car in his country of residence. A later directive mentions that second home owners may register the car accompanying the second home in that home’s country, but the whole thing seems very confused.
I have great hopes of sense from my local MP, Nick Clegg, who I have dragged into this. Is anyone able to shed any light on the question of returning to the UK in a French registered car (whilst still a UK resident)?
8. Further comments about registering a car (added 16/12/10)...
I can't help feeling that there's far too much unnecessary confusion surrounding this issue. The requirements for importing a second-hand car into France are pretty straightforward. Where complications arise is when the French themselves are confused e.g. your correspondent who was refused a CT because the garage said they had to have a carte grise first, which is rubbish, if they had their V5C.
According to the legislation, you can keep your UK number as it conforms to the new French system of letters-numbers-letters (aa-123-aa) but I'd guess you'd have to be sure to point this out to the official at the prefecture (politely).
Insuring your UK registered car shouldn't be a problem but it seems to depend on the insurers. I insured with GAN without any trouble and was simply told to get a CT within three months (no mention of registration). GAN appear to have offices in most large towns.
I can't answer for other car owners but the entire process will have cost me around 1100 Euros. This is cheaper than buying a new car.
9. And another person's experiences of registering a car (added 14/4/11)...
Thank you for the advice. We followed it as closely to the letter as was possible in our particular circumstances, and found it easy, and surprisingly quick, to complete the formalities of changing to French plates. These circumstances may be relevant to other visitors to your site, and so I am listing some of their key points:
a) We have a static caravan in Alpes-Maritimes. We wanted to change a UK-registered Renault to French plates so that we could leave it there all year, because a new Jet2 flight from home to Nice made this option attractive. We pay our electricity and French taxes through the campsite, and so do not have utility bills which demonstrate proof of residence. However, the manager of the campsite wrote a "to whom it may concern" which affirmed our residence on the site, and our payment of bills for French services. That letter was accepted without a murmur by the Centre des Impôts and the sous-préfecture.
b) Renault's website advises writing to its Billancourt HQ for the Certificate of Conformity. Instead, I phoned the Renault UK call centre in Bangor (Co. Down). They gave me a reference number for my enquiry, and told me to take the car's documentation to my local Renault dealer. The dealer had never heard of the certificate, but called Bangor, quoted my reference, and was told to fax the documents. The certificate was mailed to me inside a week and cost nothing. (Thank you, Renault, for great service.)
c) The car did not need Contrôle Technique as it is under four years old. This caused no problems at the tax office and sous-préfecture because the confirmation of age is on the Certificate of Conformity.
d) There was no queue at the Centre des Impôts in Sophia Antipolis. We obtained the Quitus Fiscal in a few minutes with no problems at all.
e) There was a huge queue at the sous-préfecture in Grasse, but it has a ticketing system at reception, so there were no worries about queue-jumping. We had filled in the downloadable immatriculation form before leaving home, but there are blank copies at reception for people who don't have them. We had to wait 45 minutes for our turn at the counter, but just a few minutes to complete the formalities, again with no problems.
f) The clerk issued us with a document which we had to take to the cash desk downstairs. There was virtually no queue there, and we were given our temporary Carte Grise immediately after a credit card payment. The full version of the Carte Grise arrived at the campsite inside four days.
I was dreading the bureaucracy of completing the formalities before we left home, but it turned out to be easy and quick. All office staff were professional and helpful. I am happy to recommend the process to anyone who is dithering between this and the more dodgy (probably illegal) approach of keeping one's own national plates in France, even with French insurance and a Contrôle Technique.
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